Saturday, November 17, 2007

Armenians as Original People of Britain?



Now here's something to wrap your head around! On the first page of one of the earliest chronicles of English history, The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, it is stated - rather explicitly - that Armenians were the first people of Britain. No, the RedBull you just had isn't playing tricks on your mind!
The island Britain is 800 miles long, and 200 miles broad. And there are in the island five nations; English, Welsh (or British), Scottish, Pictish, and Latin. The first inhabitants were the Britons, who came from Armenia, and first peopled Britain southward.
Whoa there! Are you telling me that Pink Floyd, The Beatles, and Black Sabbath all have Armenian blood? Forget the deeper historical implications, that's great news! Well, maybe not so. Reading the Chronicle further - and you're free to do so yourself with the link on the bottom - we find that there may be a possible error.

We look at the footnotes and find this:
De tractu Armoricano." --Bede, "Ecclesiastical History" i. I. The word Armenia occurring a few lines above in Bede, it was perhaps inadvertently written by the Saxon compiler of the "Chronicle" instead of Armorica.
In other words, it is very possible - nay, probable - that whoever wrote that particular sentence and included "Armenia" intended to write Armorica.

But what the hell is Armorica?
Armorica or Aremorica is the name given in ancient times to the part of Gaul that includes the Brittany peninsula and the territory between the Seine and Loire rivers, extending inland to an indeterminate point and down the Atlantic coast. The toponym is based on the Gaulish phrase are mori "on/at [the] sea", made into the Gaulish place name Aremorica 'Place by the Sea'.
Since my efforts to find reliable maps of Armorica were fruitless, I thus conclude that the history of Armenia & Britain were purposely obscured throughout the ages by opposing forces. Therefore, Armorica never existed and it was indeed Armenians who initially inhabited Britain!

Another mystery solved.

Source: The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, Armorica on WikiPedia

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is spiffy. One word against all the other evidence? This is either a joke, or Armenian chauvinism.

Anonymous said...

What makes things really sad is when pseudo-historians actually do make conclusions like you just did (hopefully yours was jokingly).

Rhyne said...

If you thought I was serious, jump off into the Thames NOW! ;)

Anonymous said...

Wow, was I the only one who laughed at that? Armenians are a proud people (for many valid reasons) and we make comments like that in jest. Who here heard Christ was a Tashnagtsagan Armo? And we all know the Greek's stole sarma from us and then called it dolma.

Anonymous said...

Here Here!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Hylander... we are a funny, funny, people. Whether this article is true or not is not the funny part. Like, my family will sit in the theater after a movie is over, just to look for Armenian names, then get happy to see 1.
Or how Armenians are always saying that Princess Diana was 1/64th Armenian. According to my grandfather...anyone who invented or created anything worthwhile has Armenian blood...vay vay, what proud ppl we are... : )

Rhyne said...

It feels good to see an Armenian name ANYWHERE! I love seeing Armenians succeed! Yay!

Anonymous said...

I remember once my dad tried to convince me that Armenians are the source of all life....good times.

Rhyne said...

The Holy Grail in the Indiana Jones movie? Yep, Armenians. ;)

Meri Manukyan said...

I don't care if Princess Diana had any Armenian blood, because it will not change my life in any shape or form one way or the other. But I have been suspecting about the possible connection between the people of the British Isles and Armenians for years. First, because of the linguistic similarities I have casually noticed by using both languages. These words don't have latin roots. Examples: Door, cow, cat, hatchet, etc. I am sure if a proper linguistic study were to be done (there may already be one I am not aware of)the list would be surprisingly long. Second, my surprise at the uncanny similarity between Irish music and Armenian music. The first time I saw Riverdance on KCET, I was waiting to see Armenians finally reveal themselves and be identified as such. That would not happen of course since what I was hearing was Irish bagpipes and drums. The third connection is Stone Henge. It really irritates me that it is described as a "mystery". So in this day and age, there is no more evidence to suggest that this structure was built by giant aliens, or by Druids. Is it really that hard to at least narrow down the possibilities? It feels like the scientific community is afraid of what they might find, which in my opinion is some kind of connection between Armenians or other people not officially considered the ancestors of the British people. It is a fact that there is no meaning for the word "henge" in English, and it is not used in any other context than for "Stone Henge." However, in Armenia there are several similar ancient stone structures (much older than Stone Henge, but on a smaller scale) which are called Kara Hunge meaning "Stone Circle." It has been scientifically proven that these structures were built by the native population as observatories.
It makes no difference to me today if the British have Armenian blood or not, but still I can't help but notice these things.

Rhyne said...

The Stone Henge, much like our own version, is a giant astronomical calendar and that is fact. Whether Armenians had anything to do with it is something else entirely.

paxlava said...

ive also heard st. gabriel is armenian:)

Rhyne said...

St. Peter AND Peter Gabriel, cool! ;)

Anonymous said...

Wow, this is almost as bad as the stuff nationalistic history coming from Azerbeijan.

A lot of this stuff is based on assumptions and two or three data points taken out of their context. Assumption is always that it must have come from Armenians. Cultural exchange is a two way street, always.

Whether the karahunge was built by Armenians is another matter in itself.

And Armenians were not always the only ones living in Armenia either.

But just to throw some more gasoline on the fire, some are claiming St. Patrick is Armenian too ;) I'll go and hide now.

Anonymous said...

You know something funny? No? this isn't funny by the way, and not a joke. I agree with meri for most parts.

First, ignoer the way "Iriland" is spellt. Say it out loud to yourself: Ayrland, land of Ayrarat -the centre of antique Armenia, the planes of Ararat.

And by the way, don't take this to mean that all Brits were once Armenian. I also believe that the Armenians WERE the first inhabitants of the isle, but thereafter, they became a small percent of the Isle's inhabitants, they were assimilated with Saxons, Picts -the whole lot.

And I don't like that guy at the end who's challanging the Armenianness of not just Stone Heneg, but of Karahunge also.

Anonymous said...

Dear ArmenianPatriot, a fellow Armenian,

here's some info on the source of the name "Ireland":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89riu

You may be trolling but there it is.

And it should be noted that Celts had spread all the way to Asia Minor. I've always wondered about a connection between the the Irish and Armenian khatchkars and the detailed artwork on both.

I think the big issue is the complete pro-Armenian ethnocentric assumptions being thrown about while completely forgetting that culture is a two-way street. And lands geography is completely porous.

This isn't to say our history does not go back, it's just that you can't just assume. And believe me, I know how good it feels to the ego to imagine so.

veggiedude said...

Maybe Armorica is really America. Yea, Americans are the original natives of Britain.
There are two possibilities. Native Americans came across the ocean but that is quite unlikely.
The other scenario is that in the not too distant future the US will build an actual time machine and in order to prevent SkyNet from happening, some accidentally went the wrong way back in time, so had to populate the place they ended up, which was Britain.